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Remove drug tax system

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by StreetLgnd, Jan 9, 2020.

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  1. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    Suggestion Title:
    Remove drug tax system


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    Suggestion Sub-Category:
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    Suggestion:
    This isn't realistic.

    If gangs are collecting taxes, they should be in the streets enforcing it.

    I don't think this should be scripted.
     
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  2. Award1925

    Award1925 New Guy

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    There’s no there way to enforce a drug tax with people running round asking for it without it ending in some sort of gunfight.
     
  3. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    I mean.. That's how it works in the streets. If you don't have the numbers to back it up, don't try to tax someone. If you don't have a solid plan how to tax someone, then don't tax someone.

    Just kind of doesn't make sense that you are selling drugs to a house, then that money gets put directly into a group bank account. Where is the RP in that?
     
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    Award1925 New Guy

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    I has come to my attention by the last reply that you wish to use this to improve RP - "Where is the RP in that?"
    I agree to a certain extent that there is no RP involved in getting the taxes from drug sale to bank however there is RP involved in gaining that turf which i is a fair system.

    The way that you propose would lead to constant shootouts in drug areas, no-one is going to wait for 4 men running up to them with/without guns to run up to them to find out if they are the friendly neighborhood tax-men or are instead there the rob them. This new script stops this confusion and the constant DM that may take place.
     
  5. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    You tax people when you have control of a neighbourhood. If a large gang mainly sells drugs in a certain neighbourhood, they would push everyone else out of the neighbourhood. If someone wants to sell drugs in that neighbourhood, they need to work that out with the gang is constantly in that hood.

    1 real question... How does it make any sense that technically 1 single person can tax a gang that has 20+ members, all based off knowing a location of a hidden circle.
     
  6. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    If want to make it more realistic, put a visible circle on a street corner. Still use the point system. Send a notification to the group whenever someone is trying to take over the location. Let them bang it out in the streets for the spot.

    Edit: ok maybe not a visible circle because cops would see it. But at least make it on a street corner or something obvious and realistic.
     
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  7. Award1925

    Award1925 New Guy

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    If one person can tax a gang of 20+ members then they must be taxing the crows because they are the only gang that can't take man out. Ask @Boris Ward
     
  8. Boris Ward

    Boris Ward New Guy

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    The man is not wrong. Crows have been chasing me for 2 weeks, not even come close
     
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  9. Tudor

    Tudor New Guy
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    :)) someone is crying that they cannot hold a location? admin team is trying to get you out off the woods and you don’t like that?
     
  10. Award1925

    Award1925 New Guy

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    Who exactly is this directed at?
     
  11. Tautvis

    Tautvis New Guy
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    I dislike this idea one of the best updates, fight for the turf urself and tax people, more crim stuff is always nice.
     
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  12. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    OK that was funny lololol
     
  13. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    I am also curious about that. Don't even know what they are saying tbh
     
  14. Ben Biff

    Ben Biff District Attorney
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    I agree this system sounded cool when reading the logs but its unrealistic you wanna tax people you do that ic. As a gang you run an area you wanna control an area you make it known thats your area..... sorry but if im steaking out an area i dont need to rob you 10 times i plan my move.... im not gonna get into my rp but go watch some gangster movies this shit does not exist...
    Step 1 find area
    Step 2 gain control in the area/ make it known
    Step 3 hold your ground (implement tax)
    You do know right that not every scenario turns into a gun fight proposals and honour go a long way. But from what i read if im selling dope at a house down the street and a gang holding down one place i cant even sell at shit im laughing keep holding it down while i make money in your hood.
     
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  15. Ben Biff

    Ben Biff District Attorney
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    Only way this would make sense is 1 sell location
    Or sure if the places your selling to get taxed but the person nickel and diming aint gettin no tax cut lol he prob getting taxed by his own gang or people who is it to just say were taxing you no rp
     
  16. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    If you want to tax people, you have to hold down the street so people cant sell there.

    You dont take over a turf by hiding in a building while someone is selling drugs in your hood 100ft away.

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    ^^ lol for real?

    no offense meant towards @RvGhost and credit for his shared image. Unfortunately this how turf wars actually work. Shit needs to go. I think taking over turf would be way more fun with this gone. You cant even strategically hold your turf down like this. You are forced to have as many people you can stuck in a room. If not be ready to stay online for who knows how long with less people.

    If someone is selling coke in your turf, you roll up and rob them and take their money and coke. Simple. No need for DM, no reason to even shoot your gun tbh if you are following server rules.
     
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  17. Shorty

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    I love me some crim updates but to be completely honest, and this is from the standpoint of a fully crim char. I think the turfs will be a problem in the long run when the server grows. You are gonna have like 10 locations most of which is in town, just be a completely fucking war. I don't know if this is good for the server.

    RPly it makes very little sense. As someone mentioned if you want to get known for holding something down, you get known by using force not staying 20 people in a building for X amount of time.
     
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  18. Ben Biff

    Ben Biff District Attorney
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    Hey lets all go meditate in a circle while everyone else is running the streets around us....goons at one end goons at the other end come to my ends see what happ ends ;):) pretty logical makes for good rp tbh.... i wouldnt know but would the every day seller even have an idea of who is he being taxed by?
     
  19. itzryzo

    itzryzo Newer Guy

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    It provides a group criminal activity besides sitting in a factory or RV, before they were added no one was really at war. they just fought cop vs crim day in and day out. It has given reasons to fight and removing it will do nothing but hurt the server.
    Gameplay over Realism, if you want pure realism go outside
     
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  20. StreetLgnd

    StreetLgnd Alright Guy

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    Maybe those people fighting cops should spend more of their time getting a hold of turf instead. If you don't want to sit in an RV all day, go Friggin take over some turf.

    Kind of sad that people can't take initiative and go hold down a turf without script.

    You are complaining about no gang shit going on, but noone is going out and taking turf. There is way more money and RP to be made if you take this madness out.

    I don't know how anyone can say this script is providing more rp than going out as a gang and holding down a street.

    If you are caught selling on our street, you either cough up tax money, or get robbed.

    I can not understand why anyone would need a script to do this. You are killing RP with this.

    Oh right, cuz people rather do breakouts and fuck with cops instead of taking over a block. It's madnesssssss
     
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